I think the concerns of the average person out there are that even with this new group, it will be the same old with trainers winning everything. We none mind getting beat when someone else has the best horse; but, we all know that doesn't happen very often when you get to the big shows. Until we have judges that judge the horse and not who is leading it in and who owns it, there will be a decline in people interested in staying in the halter horse industry and coming into the industry. It is sad to hear comments among the average horse people. They feel they have no chance, even if they would have the best horse. If the new organization wants to do something to better the industry they should concentrate on changing what other people believe to be the truth in this industry. If they want more people involved, they need to show everyone that it is going to be different. It goes back to discrimination. Average horse people feel that they are always discriminated against. You prove it to them that this group will be different, then you may have something. Until then, the little people will probably stand on the side line and watch and listen to what is going on, and then make up their own minds whether this is same old same old.